Even though I made numerous attempts to recover one of these hard-cast, 158-grain bullets, I was unsuccessful. They repeatedly drove through more than 30 inches of gelatin, and even though I tried to catch the bullets with a Level II soft body armor panel, I failed. The vest panel stopped the bullets, but they bounced to one side or the other and could not be found. All of the ammunition that Tim Sundles of Buffalo Bore puts together is purpose built, and this load is no different. It is designed as a trail load, hunting load or even a bear-defense load for the .38 Spl. I also seriously doubt there is a bad guy—or even a bear—it will not shoot through.