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		<title>By: Scc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 23:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chamber carry is a must and if you play with your gun enough [(]unloaded[)] you will gain a familiarity of your weapon that is second nature. Also teach your children and your spouse proper safety and at home no worries, on your person not an issue. In a pinch you won&#039;t have time or the safety to rack one in the chamber. Maybe lucky to get the safety off without drawing fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chamber carry is a must and if you play with your gun enough [(]unloaded[)] you will gain a familiarity of your weapon that is second nature. Also teach your children and your spouse proper safety and at home no worries, on your person not an issue. In a pinch you won&#8217;t have time or the safety to rack one in the chamber. Maybe lucky to get the safety off without drawing fire.</p>
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		<title>By: careful carry</title>
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		<dc:creator>careful carry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 01:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  My safeties are easily flipped to &#039;fire&#039; and that&#039;s one reason I leave the chamber empty but I&#039;m big on situational awareness and will sometimes grip a weapon to gain a half second to rack the slide if the environment looks uncomfortable but I see your point.  I&#039;ll carry a .40 when hiking trails but other times a lasered Ruger SR22 is smaller, lighter, more concealable so what I carry depends on where I am.  Heavier, bulkier larger caliber can be inconvenient depending on dress code so I practice rapid follow up shots with .22LR on airway and efficient cardiac placement, not just center mass on a B-25.  You had a thoughtful, interesting reply. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  My safeties are easily flipped to &#8216;fire&#8217; and that&#8217;s one reason I leave the chamber empty but I&#8217;m big on situational awareness and will sometimes grip a weapon to gain a half second to rack the slide if the environment looks uncomfortable but I see your point.  I&#8217;ll carry a .40 when hiking trails but other times a lasered Ruger SR22 is smaller, lighter, more concealable so what I carry depends on where I am.  Heavier, bulkier larger caliber can be inconvenient depending on dress code so I practice rapid follow up shots with .22LR on airway and efficient cardiac placement, not just center mass on a B-25.  You had a thoughtful, interesting reply. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 18:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good article, one of the best I&#039;ve read describing the key points of CCW choices and decisions. Allow me to share a few of my own thoughts related to this:


Chambered versus Unchambered:

I&#039;d consider myself quite well-trained. I practice weekly with a combination of range time and exercises during which I typically go through 200-500 rounds; about 50-50 between pistols and rifles. I also use a SIRT laser pistol for &quot;non destructive&quot; training.

Regarding pistol carry; I&#039;d always been an advocate of the &quot;Israeli draw&quot; method, which is a loaded magazine but no round in the chamber. Every week I practiced racking the slide as I brought the pistol from the holster to the ready position and was confident I&#039;d be able to execute this procedure if, heaven forbid, I&#039;d ever have to engage a hostile threat.

It wasn&#039;t until I went through an intense training course with adrenaline-pumping routines that, despite my relentless practicing, I failed three times to get a round off before I was &quot;hit&quot; by the threat: Once I forgot to rack the slide (really, after all my practicing?!), once my hand slipped off the back of the slide without fully engaging the round (wet, cold, slippery conditions), and once I had a failure-to-feed (FTF) I had to deal with in order to get my weapons system back into play.

I was lucky, this was just a training exercise. In a real-life scenario there would be no pause, no replays, no rewinds, and no &quot;wait a minute while I fix my weapons&quot; opportunities. In a real-life scenario this would have been a very bad day for me. I experienced three of several classic scenarios of the downside of deploying the Israeli draw method. That event changed my whole way of thinking. I now carry loaded, meaning a full mag and one in the chamber.

So, if you&#039;re going to carry unloaded (no chambered round) you&#039;d better be 100% confident you can execute this procedure flawlessly if your life--or someone else&#039;s--were to depend on it. I&#039;d suggest to sign up for an adrenaline-pumping training course like I did to see if you can really execute it and not just think you can like I did.


2000 Rounds To Really Know Your Weapon:

Early in my training I was taught from the time you shoot your first pistol or rifle it takes a minimum of 2,000 to 3,000 rounds to really get to know your weapon and, more importantly, yourself: How will you react to the recoil from the weapon? Will you subconsciously anticipate the recoil and unknowingly move your weapon when the trigger breaches and miss your point of aim? How fast and accurate can you recover after each shot to get back on target? Will you  close your eyes every time the gun goes off? How soon will you develop muscle-memory so your actions become second nature? And the list goes on.

When I heard the 2-3K rounds rule I must admit I though it was a bunch of BS. I thought I&#039;d be able to master my weapons after only a few hundred rounds.

Now I have well over 10,000 rounds through my primary weapon (M&amp;P 40 full-size), and probably the same again through my secondary weapons, I can better appreciate this and the reasons why. I still have a yearning to learn and so learn something new just about every time I practice, either about the weapons themselves or about me. I figure the more I can learn the more second nature things will become if ever I need to rely on instincts, muscle memory, and my training.

I say this to hopefully encourage others to practice as often as practical. Rather than just lobbing rounds down the range trying for tight groupings, focus on things like technic; trigger control; target acquisition; holstering; repetitive, repeatable motion; increasing speed and efficiency, etc. If you have the opportunity take indoor and outdoor training classes even better so you can experience more real-world scenarios so as to broaden your training.

The more you practice and the more variety you can work into training regime the more second nature things will become.

This all plays into what &quot;Phil Fountain&quot; mentions in thread #74, &quot;The difference between practice and the real thing cannot be simulated but practice goes a long way in preparing for the unexpected event&quot;. Great words of wisdom.


.22LR As A Self-Defense Weapon:

I&#039;d say if a .22LR is what you&#039;re most comfortable with carrying and/or using as a self-defense weapon because you&#039;re not comfortable with larger caliber weapons then as long as you practice with it like you would any other weapon then go for it! In my mind, if you&#039;re in a situation where you have to neutralize a threat and you&#039;re most comfortable and accurate with a .22, it&#039;s better to get in 3 well-placed, effective rounds in from the .22LR than having three misses with a gun you&#039;re not comfortable with.

As I always tell folks, &quot;No one should make decisions for us when it comes to guns and gun carry. If we do things we&#039;re not comfortable with because someone told us it&#039;s &#039;right&#039; it becomes a distraction in an event where clarity and simplicity is needed.&quot; These may be words to live by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good article, one of the best I&#8217;ve read describing the key points of CCW choices and decisions. Allow me to share a few of my own thoughts related to this:</p>
<p>Chambered versus Unchambered:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d consider myself quite well-trained. I practice weekly with a combination of range time and exercises during which I typically go through 200-500 rounds; about 50-50 between pistols and rifles. I also use a SIRT laser pistol for &#8220;non destructive&#8221; training.</p>
<p>Regarding pistol carry; I&#8217;d always been an advocate of the &#8220;Israeli draw&#8221; method, which is a loaded magazine but no round in the chamber. Every week I practiced racking the slide as I brought the pistol from the holster to the ready position and was confident I&#8217;d be able to execute this procedure if, heaven forbid, I&#8217;d ever have to engage a hostile threat.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until I went through an intense training course with adrenaline-pumping routines that, despite my relentless practicing, I failed three times to get a round off before I was &#8220;hit&#8221; by the threat: Once I forgot to rack the slide (really, after all my practicing?!), once my hand slipped off the back of the slide without fully engaging the round (wet, cold, slippery conditions), and once I had a failure-to-feed (FTF) I had to deal with in order to get my weapons system back into play.</p>
<p>I was lucky, this was just a training exercise. In a real-life scenario there would be no pause, no replays, no rewinds, and no &#8220;wait a minute while I fix my weapons&#8221; opportunities. In a real-life scenario this would have been a very bad day for me. I experienced three of several classic scenarios of the downside of deploying the Israeli draw method. That event changed my whole way of thinking. I now carry loaded, meaning a full mag and one in the chamber.</p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re going to carry unloaded (no chambered round) you&#8217;d better be 100% confident you can execute this procedure flawlessly if your life&#8211;or someone else&#8217;s&#8211;were to depend on it. I&#8217;d suggest to sign up for an adrenaline-pumping training course like I did to see if you can really execute it and not just think you can like I did.</p>
<p>2000 Rounds To Really Know Your Weapon:</p>
<p>Early in my training I was taught from the time you shoot your first pistol or rifle it takes a minimum of 2,000 to 3,000 rounds to really get to know your weapon and, more importantly, yourself: How will you react to the recoil from the weapon? Will you subconsciously anticipate the recoil and unknowingly move your weapon when the trigger breaches and miss your point of aim? How fast and accurate can you recover after each shot to get back on target? Will you  close your eyes every time the gun goes off? How soon will you develop muscle-memory so your actions become second nature? And the list goes on.</p>
<p>When I heard the 2-3K rounds rule I must admit I though it was a bunch of BS. I thought I&#8217;d be able to master my weapons after only a few hundred rounds.</p>
<p>Now I have well over 10,000 rounds through my primary weapon (M&amp;P 40 full-size), and probably the same again through my secondary weapons, I can better appreciate this and the reasons why. I still have a yearning to learn and so learn something new just about every time I practice, either about the weapons themselves or about me. I figure the more I can learn the more second nature things will become if ever I need to rely on instincts, muscle memory, and my training.</p>
<p>I say this to hopefully encourage others to practice as often as practical. Rather than just lobbing rounds down the range trying for tight groupings, focus on things like technic; trigger control; target acquisition; holstering; repetitive, repeatable motion; increasing speed and efficiency, etc. If you have the opportunity take indoor and outdoor training classes even better so you can experience more real-world scenarios so as to broaden your training.</p>
<p>The more you practice and the more variety you can work into training regime the more second nature things will become.</p>
<p>This all plays into what &#8220;Phil Fountain&#8221; mentions in thread #74, &#8220;The difference between practice and the real thing cannot be simulated but practice goes a long way in preparing for the unexpected event&#8221;. Great words of wisdom.</p>
<p>.22LR As A Self-Defense Weapon:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say if a .22LR is what you&#8217;re most comfortable with carrying and/or using as a self-defense weapon because you&#8217;re not comfortable with larger caliber weapons then as long as you practice with it like you would any other weapon then go for it! In my mind, if you&#8217;re in a situation where you have to neutralize a threat and you&#8217;re most comfortable and accurate with a .22, it&#8217;s better to get in 3 well-placed, effective rounds in from the .22LR than having three misses with a gun you&#8217;re not comfortable with.</p>
<p>As I always tell folks, &#8220;No one should make decisions for us when it comes to guns and gun carry. If we do things we&#8217;re not comfortable with because someone told us it&#8217;s &#8216;right&#8217; it becomes a distraction in an event where clarity and simplicity is needed.&#8221; These may be words to live by.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 01:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. I hope all my future commercial pilots have your attitude [(]and practice[)]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. I hope all my future commercial pilots have your attitude [(]and practice[)]</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Fountain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Fountain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 03:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a retired corporate pilot and been through a number of situations in jets over a 30 year period. The reason I bring it up is because there is a relationship between flying an airplane in a difficult situation and using a gun under in a pressure situation. Pilots train in simulators every six to twelve months. I’ve had engine failures after takeoff and it is amazing how memory recall and muscle memory work together to do the right thing. The difference between practice and the real thing cannot be simulated but practice goes a long ways in preparing for an unexpected event. If an event should happen, adrenaline will kick-in, time will slow to a crawl and it’s amazing what goes through your mine. With the engine failure I had the first thing I thought of was that I trained for this my whole career so take your time and do it right. I would think in a difficult situation with a gun I would have the same kind of thoughts. When I keep my books I always prepare for an IRS audit. In a confrontation with a gun I would be thinking about using actions that I could justify to a jury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a retired corporate pilot and been through a number of situations in jets over a 30 year period. The reason I bring it up is because there is a relationship between flying an airplane in a difficult situation and using a gun under in a pressure situation. Pilots train in simulators every six to twelve months. I’ve had engine failures after takeoff and it is amazing how memory recall and muscle memory work together to do the right thing. The difference between practice and the real thing cannot be simulated but practice goes a long ways in preparing for an unexpected event. If an event should happen, adrenaline will kick-in, time will slow to a crawl and it’s amazing what goes through your mine. With the engine failure I had the first thing I thought of was that I trained for this my whole career so take your time and do it right. I would think in a difficult situation with a gun I would have the same kind of thoughts. When I keep my books I always prepare for an IRS audit. In a confrontation with a gun I would be thinking about using actions that I could justify to a jury.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans snapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans snapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, I am in my 60&#039;s, while I carried 20 years ago, without much training.. I am actively getting professional training now.  I carry a sig 938p and also enjoy shooting my Glock.  Thanks for the article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, I am in my 60&#8242;s, while I carried 20 years ago, without much training.. I am actively getting professional training now.  I carry a sig 938p and also enjoy shooting my Glock.  Thanks for the article</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, I&#039;m a 66 yr young lady who cannot slide anything other than th 22 I just bought. At least I know that I&#039;m armed if anyone wants to mess with me. By the way, I just passed my CHL .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, I&#8217;m a 66 yr young lady who cannot slide anything other than th 22 I just bought. At least I know that I&#8217;m armed if anyone wants to mess with me. By the way, I just passed my CHL .</p>
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		<title>By: careful carry</title>
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		<dc:creator>careful carry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 03:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with the &#039;Rule of Three&#039;s&#039; .... most confrontations occur within 3 meters [(]9 feet[)]; with 3 shots fired total; and the encounter is over in 3 seconds.
Agree with carrying semi-auto with loaded mag but empty chamber; unless you live/work in high crime area you are more likely to negligently discharge and wound yourself than be in a gunfight.  Some politicians&#039; cars have killed more people than my gun ..... A certain degree of neurosis about negligent discharge is healthy.
Finally, agree that a .22LR is better than bare hands.  Smaller caliber [=] less recoil/muzzle lift [=] more 2nd and3rd shots on target.  The left ventricle or upper thorax/throat or oral cavity reacts similarly whether it&#039;s one .380 or three .22LRs.  A lasered Ruger SR22 gives you 10 shots at those three areas [(]2 shots at a time x 5[)]; no BG can survive cardiac or airway perforation.  Don&#039;t sell lasered .22&#039;s short for defensive carry .... It&#039;s all about shot placement and with a .22LR you can practice more often and longer - both physically and economically.
Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with the &#8216;Rule of Three&#8217;s&#8217; &#8230;. most confrontations occur within 3 meters [(]9 feet[)]; with 3 shots fired total; and the encounter is over in 3 seconds.<br />
Agree with carrying semi-auto with loaded mag but empty chamber; unless you live/work in high crime area you are more likely to negligently discharge and wound yourself than be in a gunfight.  Some politicians&#8217; cars have killed more people than my gun &#8230;.. A certain degree of neurosis about negligent discharge is healthy.<br />
Finally, agree that a .22LR is better than bare hands.  Smaller caliber [=] less recoil/muzzle lift [=] more 2nd and3rd shots on target.  The left ventricle or upper thorax/throat or oral cavity reacts similarly whether it&#8217;s one .380 or three .22LRs.  A lasered Ruger SR22 gives you 10 shots at those three areas [(]2 shots at a time x 5[)]; no BG can survive cardiac or airway perforation.  Don&#8217;t sell lasered .22&#8242;s short for defensive carry &#8230;. It&#8217;s all about shot placement and with a .22LR you can practice more often and longer &#8211; both physically and economically.<br />
Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Country Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Country Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A country boy that grew up shooting quail and squirrels could probably out shoot both of ya, and may have many more years experience than the military guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A country boy that grew up shooting quail and squirrels could probably out shoot both of ya, and may have many more years experience than the military guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked the article. You can never stress enough how important training is. I was once taught to never carry a gun until you have out at least 200 rounds down range. That is the minimum to really feel comfortable with what you might need to use some day. I have also never met anyone who has had to use a gun in the civilian world. Not saying it doesn&#039;t happen, just have never met anyone. 

As far as caliber, if you are comfortable with a gun and can consistently hit center mass with it, the caliber is less important than accuracy. A .22 will knock a man down if hit center mass, even with a vest on. In a world where seconds matter, that second for them to recover might be all you need. 

By the way, I earned my CIB in 1993 so some might know my combat time was spent against idiots that used drugs. They are harder to bring down but center mass ammo placement buys a lot of time. I would just like to make sure a person is comfortable with what they are shooting and can hit where they aim. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked the article. You can never stress enough how important training is. I was once taught to never carry a gun until you have out at least 200 rounds down range. That is the minimum to really feel comfortable with what you might need to use some day. I have also never met anyone who has had to use a gun in the civilian world. Not saying it doesn&#8217;t happen, just have never met anyone. </p>
<p>As far as caliber, if you are comfortable with a gun and can consistently hit center mass with it, the caliber is less important than accuracy. A .22 will knock a man down if hit center mass, even with a vest on. In a world where seconds matter, that second for them to recover might be all you need. </p>
<p>By the way, I earned my CIB in 1993 so some might know my combat time was spent against idiots that used drugs. They are harder to bring down but center mass ammo placement buys a lot of time. I would just like to make sure a person is comfortable with what they are shooting and can hit where they aim.</p>
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